I have access to many FSI courses
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Topic: I have access to many FSI courses
Posted By: iieee
Subject: I have access to many FSI courses
Date Posted: 04 December 2006 at 3:05pm
Hi, I am studying Turkish so I am happy with what is available here for this language. However, I would like to contribute, and I am at a university with many FSI texts available in the library. I emailed gdfellows about which would be on the top of his list, but I think he was too busy with stuff going on on this site to respond. So, I'll ask the question to you all.
If you go to http://sunsite5.berkeley.edu:8000/ - http://sunsite5.berkeley.edu:8000/
and type in Foreign Service Institute in the author-organization search field, you'll see what I have to choose from. Unfortunatly you have to sift through a lot of other FSI publications which aren't language texts. But believe me, there's plenty in there that would be great to add to this site.
Please post here what you would like to see. I tend to think the more unusual languages would be more worth the effort, because there are so many other materials available for more commonly taught languages. Then again, materials for more common languages might get the most use because more people are interested in learning them.
Take a look and let me know.
-andrea
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Posted By: iieee
Date Posted: 04 December 2006 at 3:17pm
Oh, by the way, I think the only one I have access to that has the audio with it is the Cambodian. I'll have to double check though.
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Posted By: onebir
Date Posted: 04 December 2006 at 4:50pm
If you want some 'quick kills' and favour the exotic you do worse than: - digitize the tapes for for cambodian (since the books online)... - and the book for amharic (since the audio's available at http://languagelab.bh.indiana.edu/amharic_a400.html in it's entirety, i believe)
Two courses for the work of one ;-)
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Posted By: Chung
Date Posted: 04 December 2006 at 5:40pm
I keep thinking that Demipuppet has access to the Cambodian audio and will get to that once he finishes Hebrew and straightens things out with SoTxBPA who mentioned in another post that he had the text Cambodian Basic vol. 1.
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Posted By: DemiPuppet
Date Posted: 04 December 2006 at 7:05pm
I've finished digitizing the audio for Hebrew, Cambodian 1, and Swahili. I'll probably be sending them in before the end of the week. I want to finish up the Hebrew text first.
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Posted By: jgibson
Date Posted: 04 December 2006 at 7:08pm
If you go to http://sunsite5.berkeley.edu:8000/ - http://sunsite5.berkeley.edu:8000/
and type in Foreign Service Institute in the author-organization
search field, you'll see what I have to choose from. Unfortunatly you
have to sift through a lot of other FSI publications which aren't
language texts.
If you click "Modify Search" and enter "course" for Title Keyword, it knocks the results down to about 70, mostly language-related.
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Posted By: iieee
Date Posted: 04 December 2006 at 8:38pm
So I think I'll do the Amharic then. Sounds like it would be pretty useful since we have the audio. I won't be able to start until after finals though.
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Posted By: Eurolerner
Date Posted: 06 December 2006 at 2:46am
You would make me very happy if you can digitize this one:
http://sunsite5.berkeley.edu:8000/WebZ/Authorize?sessionid=0:entitycountDisplay=0:next=NEXTCMD/WebZ/CheckIndexCombined?next=html/openingframe.html:entityactive=search:bad=error/badsearchframeStatic.html:entitydbgroup=Glad:entitydbname=Glad:format=B:numrecs=20:entitycountWhere=0:entitycountAvail=0:entityCurrentPage=Search:entityCurrentSearchScreen=html/search.html:entitytoprecno=1:format=B:entityCurrentSearchPage=html/search.html:entitytempjds=TRUE:entitycurrecno=1 - http://sunsite5.berkeley.edu:8000/WebZ/Authorize?sessionid=0:entitycountDisplay=0:next=NEXTCMD%22/WebZ/CheckIndexCombined?next=html/openingframe.html:entityactive=search:bad=error/badsearchframeStatic.html:entitydbgroup=Glad:entitydbname=Glad:format=B:numrecs=20:entitycountWhere=0:entitycountAvail=0:entityCurrentPage=Search:entityCurrentSearchScreen=html/search.html:entitytoprecno=1:format=B:entityCurrentSearchPage=html/search.html:entitytempjds=TRUE:entitycurrecno=1
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Hungarian graded reader [by] Ilona Mihalyfy and Augustus A. Koski. |
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http://sunsite5.berkeley.edu:8000/WebZ/QUERY?sessionid=01-58797-1860940064&termsrch-pa%3D=Mihalyfy%2C+Ilona*&next=html/resultsframe.html&bad=error/badsearchframe.html&entitytoprecno=1:entitycurrecno=1:numrecs=20:key1=Date:direction1=d:key2=Author:direction2=a:key3=Title:direction3=a:key1=Date:direction1=d:key2=Author:direction2=a:key3=Title:direction3=a - Mihalyfy, Ilona. |
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Washington, Foreign Service Institute; [for sale by the Supt. of Docs., U.S. Govt. Print. Off.]
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Date |
1968. |
Description |
xi, 592 p. illus., ports. 24 cm.
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http://sunsite5.berkeley.edu:8000/WebZ/QUERY?sessionid=01-58797-1860940064&termsrch-se%3A=Foreign+Service+Institute+basic+course+series&next=html/resultsframe.html&bad=error/badsearchframe.html&entitytoprecno=1:entitycurrecno=1:numrecs=20:key1=Date:direction1=d:key2=Author:direction2=a:key3=Title:direction3=a - Foreign Service Institute basic course series Foreign Service Institute basic course series.
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http://sunsite5.berkeley.edu:8000/WebZ/QUERY?sessionid=01-58797-1860940064&termsrch-su%3D=Hungarian+language+Readers&next=html/resultsframe.html&bad=error/badsearchframe.html&entitytoprecno=1:entitycurrecno=1:numrecs=20:key1=Date:direction1=d:key2=Author:direction2=a:key3=Title:direction3=a - Hungarian language -- Readers.
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http://sunsite5.berkeley.edu:8000/WebZ/QUERY?sessionid=01-58797-1860940064&termsrch-pa%3D=Koski%2C+Augustus+A*&next=html/resultsframe.html&bad=error/badsearchframe.html&entitytoprecno=1:entitycurrecno=1:numrecs=20:key1=Date:direction1=d:key2=Author:direction2=a:key3=Title:direction3=a:entitynumrecs=20:entityendrecno=20 - Koski, Augustus A.
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http://sunsite5.berkeley.edu:8000/WebZ/FETCH?sessionid=01-58797-1860940064&recno=39&resultset=2&format=F&next=html/record.html&bad=error/badfetch.html&:entitytoprecno=39:entitycurrecno=39# - Location(s) : |
Main Stack PH2117.U6
Not checked out.
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Posted By: nieuk
Date Posted: 06 December 2006 at 4:06am
Hungarian is proving to be a popular addition to a lot of people's wishlists of late - including mine :D
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Posted By: raincrowlee
Date Posted: 06 December 2006 at 3:26pm
Originally posted by jgibson
If you go to http://sunsite5.berkeley.edu:8000/ - http://sunsite5.berkeley.edu:8000/
and type in Foreign Service Institute in the author-organization
search field, you'll see what I have to choose from. Unfortunatly you
have to sift through a lot of other FSI publications which aren't
language texts.If you click "Modify Search" and enter "course" for Title Keyword, it knocks the results down to about 70, mostly language-related.
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But you lose some titles if you do that, such as Afghan Persian and Burmese.
And there are a number of titles that I saw in your library that I haven't seen available anywhere else, including Afghan Persian, Burmese, Hindi (both a Basic and an Active Introduction) and the Russian Active Introduction. I'd suggest doing one of those, because even the NTIS doesn't make them available, and who knows when they will pop up again.
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Posted By: wquinette
Date Posted: 06 December 2006 at 8:24pm
These ones would be great, as it's difficult to find good material on Finnish in Brazil. Thanks a lot !
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http://sunsite5.berkeley.edu:8000/WebZ/FETCH?sessionid=01-49705-1253895942&recno=1&resultset=4&format=F&next=html/record.html&bad=error/badfetch.html&:entitytoprecno=1:entitycurrecno=1 - Conversational Finnish = Suomea keskustellen / <1987> |
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Author: Rytkonen-Bell, Aili. Published: [Washington, D.C.?] : Foreign Service Institute, U.S. Dept. of State, 1987. http://sunsite5.berkeley.edu:8000/WebZ/html/results.html?sessionid=01-49705-1253895942# - Location(s) : MAIN: PH124 .C651 1987; |
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http://sunsite5.berkeley.edu:8000/WebZ/FETCH?sessionid=01-49705-1253895942&recno=2&resultset=4&format=F&next=html/record.html&bad=error/badfetch.html&:entitytoprecno=2:entitycurrecno=2 - Conversational Finnish workbook = Suomea keskustellen tyokirja / <1987> |
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Author: Rytkonen-Bell, Aili. Published: [Washington, D.C.?] : Foreign Service Institute, U.S. Dept. of State, 1987. http://sunsite5.berkeley.edu:8000/WebZ/html/results.html?sessionid=01-49705-1253895942# - Location(s) : MAIN: PH135 .R981 1987; |
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Posted By: iieee
Date Posted: 06 December 2006 at 8:53pm
Well, we shall see. I will take into account what people on this forum
have suggested. These texts are around 500 pages each, the two volume
sets being over 1,000 pages. So, it will take a long time. I will not
be able to get to these all at once. But I will have access to these
even after I graduate, through the alumni program. So be patient.
Hopefully, if I don't totally hate the process, I will continue to work
on these in my spare time.
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Posted By: Chung
Date Posted: 06 December 2006 at 9:48pm
wquinette,
Malcolm is already scanning the textbook and workbook of Conversational Finnish as we speak.
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Posted By: nieuk
Date Posted: 07 December 2006 at 2:22am
Originally posted by iieee
Well, we shall see. I will take into account what people on this forum have suggested. These texts are around 500 pages each, the two volume sets being over 1,000 pages. So, it will take a long time. I will not be able to get to these all at once. But I will have access to these even after I graduate, through the alumni program. So be patient. Hopefully, if I don't totally hate the process, I will continue to work on these in my spare time. |
I hope you have access to an auto-leaf feeding style scanner 
I've been slowly scanning some Korean texts I own for the last year in preparation for when I move overseas and don't want to cart the 15kg of texts with me... About 600 pages down so far.... manually 
(Which equates to about 30% of the work)
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Posted By: solfromrio
Date Posted: 01 February 2007 at 2:51am
Hello, all.. My name is Sol, I live in Brazil, Rio, and just joined your group. My interest is the finnish language. Unfortunately, I ´ve been having troubles opening the audio files... It takes ages... But i ll keep on trying... Moi!
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Barbosa
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Posted By: wquinette
Date Posted: 04 March 2007 at 8:35am
Thanks, Chung. I'm eagerly waiting for the day when the Finnish texts are fully available. I want to send congratulations and thanks to those who are doing this magnificent job. To spread knowledge is to help improve the world, no doubt about it.
WQ
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Posted By: Poetry
Date Posted: 11 March 2007 at 9:56pm
Hi,
I'm actually a staff member at one of the local Universities in the Washington DC area. I have library access to a lot of stuff via the shared library system here. But our local library on campus has at least the following FSI courses:
Hindi: an active introduction (1970)
Luganda: pre-training program (1970)
Luganda basic course (1970)
Lao basic course (1970)
Thai basic course (1970)
Vietnamese: familiarization course (1969)
Vietnamese basic course (1967)
Finnish: graded reader (1968)
Cantonese: basic course (1970)
Greek basic course (1967)
Tripolitanian Arabic: PLP-100 course (1966)
Cambodian basic course (1966)
Swahili: an active introduction: geography (1966)
Swahili: an active introduction: general conversation (1966)
Turkish basic course (1966)
More basic course (1966) [accent mark is over that e in More, Moore-
Gurma language]
Kirundi basic course (1965)
Fula basic course (1965)
Chinyanja basic course (1965)
Serbo-Croation basic course, units 1-50 (1965)
Shona basic course (1965)
Amharic basic course, units 1-60 (1964)
Lingala basic course (1963)
Hausa basic course (1963)
Kituba basic course (1963)
Hungarian basic course, units 1-24 (1963)
Twi basic course (1963)
Yoruba basic course (1963)
Igbo basic course (1962)
There are also courses in common languages like Spanish, French, etc, but I didn't bother to list those. The ones above are a bit more exotic.
I recognize several of the more odd names as African languages (Hausa, Twi, Yoruba, Igbo).
I can also provide a couple of additions. Most of these are just books. But I could see if a couple of my friends could provide spoken recordings of the Hindi and Serbo-Croation (Serbian pronunciation) in the books. That could be recorded under a public domain license. I haven't combed through the audio library resources yet, and I think that the GWU library just down the road has a ton of this stuff in their archives that I think we have reciprocal borrowing privileges for.
I'll put another post in another area. I'm up for doing the Serbo-Croatian first.
--Poetry
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Posted By: onebir
Date Posted: 12 March 2007 at 4:51am
@Poetry - finally our prayers have been answered! :P
I don't know what resources you have access to for digitizing books, but unless you have a machine that can do them automatically, you may not want to do too many yourself. The books that would probably be most useful would be ones that complete currently incomplete sets (eg Thai & Vietnamese 2 - or anything else marked stalled on the status page: http://fsi-language-courses.com/status.aspx Note also that GDFellows, who owns this site, has audio for Luganda and Yoruba, that he hasn't mentioned. My personal vote would go to Indonesian - it's no longer sold by NTIS, and although no tapes exist AFAIK, I'm planning to spend some time there & costs are low enough there that I'm sure I could get some done.)
On the other hand, tapes are easy to digitize (you can do it in the background while using a pc for other stuff), cost much more than the books and are much harder to find second hand. Can I suggest that you look into the audio resources you have access too?
Re actually recording stuff live, it would be major task for a complete basic course. At least a week's work I imagine. So if recordings exist, digitizing them seems a far better option. Another consideration is the type of course. My understanding is the 'active introduction' type courses (eg for Hindi) aren't really suitable for self study. So a recording might represent a lot of work for something that wouldn't be terribly useful.
Anyway, these are just my opinions. I'm sure other people will contribute other views. And anything you can add to the growing collection here will be much appreciated!
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Posted By: raincrowlee
Date Posted: 12 March 2007 at 6:59am
Hi Poetry
Welcome to the board. That's quite a collection of titles you have available. I'm having problems not drolling on my keyboard. I will note that several of the titles you mention are already available on the site, namely:
Hindi: an active introduction (1970)
Lao basic course (1970) (vol 1)
Thai basic course (1970) (vol 1)
Vietnamese basic course (1967) (vol 1)
Finnish: graded reader (1968)
Cantonese: basic course (1970) (vol 1-2)
Greek basic course (1967) (vol 1-3)
Cambodian basic course (1966) (vol 1)
Turkish basic course (1966) (vol 1-2)
Hungarian basic course, units 1-24 (1963)
We wouldn't want anyone to duplicate work already done.
As Onebir has mentioned, there are tapes on hand for Yoruba and Luganda; GD Fellows also has the texts for Serbo-Croatian and some others -- the best way to see what's done is to check out the Status Page, at:
http://fsi-language-courses.com/status.aspx - http://fsi-language-courses.com/status.aspx
And the Home Page. They give you a pretty good idea of what's been finished, and these forums give you an idea of what's being worked on. There are lots of people around willing help with suggestions on what to do first, as well.
Mostly it comes down to doing what you want to do, without duplicating the work of others'. Completing sets is most appreciated, but there's also an interest in exotics and hard to find titles. Basically anything you do will help the site, and would be appreciated.
Onebir also makes a good point in asking you to pursure the audio collection. Those have generally been harder to locate and access for people looking in public libraries. And really the recordings is what makes the FSI courses special, because they tend to have much more extensive audio material than one can get in other courses. If you could track any of those down, everyone would be grateful.
So let us know if you have any questions or want suggestions for material to digitize. Glad to have you around.
Raincrow Lee
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Posted By: Poetry
Date Posted: 12 March 2007 at 8:10pm
Yeah, that's just what came up in the search in our main library. I actually did an internal request for the Hindi basic course just to see how the process works, and it turns out we've got that one too --tucked away in one of the other USM system libraries. I want to find out what audio we have, but it will have to wait until after Spring Break. The University is closed next week.
I see that someone is already working on Serbo-Croatian, so I'll just hold out for a while before jumping into digitizing. I've got another thread open about the DLI materials.
In our local area are USM (Univ System of Maryland), Georgetown, George Washington, Catholic U, Johns Hopkins, the National Archives, and a few more here and there. Some of those tapes are bound to be in one of these libraries.
--Poetry
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Posted By: nzyyang
Date Posted: 24 March 2007 at 4:54pm
yeah, im pretty eager to see that hungarian graded reader uploaded one day, coz its just too hard to find many hungarian study materials, especially in NZ, like in my uni library, there are only a couple of comprehensive dictionaries and a <100 pages grammar plus a few liguistic works associated with hungarian language, and that's it.
and there were two sets of 4 volumes hungarian textbooks published in China for the last few decades, but all of them are out of print and its very hard to find them plus, there are only a set of 2 volume gereral courses, a grammar, a book teach you how to write hungarian essays, and two hungarian conversation booklets still in print.
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Posted By: liddytime
Date Posted: 04 December 2007 at 11:47am
Hey all,
I have several cassette tapes which I copied when I worked at a University. They are from the NTIS tapes, not audio forum etc...
I found:
Hausa Units 1-30
Serbo-Croatian Units 1-25 and
Amharic Units 1-50
I thought I had Bulgarian too but I can't for the life of me find it right now.
I have no way to digitize them so I was wondering if I could send them to one of you with that capability for use on the site? Please let me know, I'd be more then happy to donate them!
BL
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Posted By: cvicvi
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 12:37am
I vote for less common taught languages :) I don't know if FSI published following courses, but if yes, it would be great see them:
1. hindi 2. quechua 3. bahasa indonesia 4. australian aboriginals 5. oceanian (tuvalu, samoa, hawaii)
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Posted By: Poetry
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 10:17am
FSI usually only taught in languages that were the main language of a country where a US diplomatic mission would be present.
Hindi, there's Hindi courses. But I don't think any of the others would be there. One of my close friends speaks Tamil and Hindi and English. Tamil has almost no published material that I can find.
--Poetry
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