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Italian Headstart

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Category: Language Courses
Forum Name: Member Contributions
Forum Discription: If you have course materials and are planning to contribute them to the website, this is the place to let everyone know.
URL: http://fsi-language-courses.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=277
Printed Date: 16 January 2009 at 3:07am


Topic: Italian Headstart
Posted By: smoen
Subject: Italian Headstart
Date Posted: 15 January 2007 at 7:20am
I ran across the Italian HeadStart FSI/DLI tapes/texts on the newsgroups. I am downloading them now, and, according to the photos of the tapes, etc, they appear to be original government tapes. If anyone is interested, I will PM gdfellows with the photos of the tapes and books, and see if he will allow them to be posted here.

SMoen



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Posted By: lelemds
Date Posted: 15 January 2007 at 9:15am
where r u downloading it?!

u had to pay or is it free?! if its free give us the link......


thanks!!!


Posted By: Exocrist
Date Posted: 15 January 2007 at 3:13pm
Newsgroups... what can't you find there...

I sort of like this idea of scouring all over the net for FSI materials, and gathering them all here.  If they are real FSI in the public domain, I think this is great news!


Posted By: andrew
Date Posted: 16 January 2007 at 12:53am
Hi,
 
Spanish headstart (Panama) and Italian headstart are both available on emule. They are copies directly from the original "FSI/DLI" courses. They even have photos of the tapes and the scans are from the ring binders etc. The versions I have are fully complete.
 
Regards.


Posted By: just_visitor
Date Posted: 17 January 2007 at 10:57am
Andrew,
what is "emule" and how to get this material off it.
I tried http://www.emule.com - www.emule.com but didn't get anything, just the main page.
Thanks


Posted By: Zorndyke
Date Posted: 17 January 2007 at 11:25am
It´s this website:  http://www.emule-project.net/home/perl/general.cgi?l=1

xD


Posted By: Lother
Date Posted: 17 January 2007 at 12:15pm
I found it on emule also, almost done downloading it. Should one of us make a torrent or something?


Posted By: Lother
Date Posted: 17 January 2007 at 3:56pm
I have it all now. If someone has a ftp server for me to upload the files, my email is dsuroth@yahoo.com.

It is DLI, so it should be copyright free.


Posted By: Chung
Date Posted: 17 January 2007 at 4:44pm

DLI's stuff should be free of copyright, however that still may not mean that we can distribute their material freely.

Look at the lower half of this thread:
 
http://fsi-language-courses.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=256&KW=dli&PID=1016#1016 - http://fsi-language-courses.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=256&KW=dli&PID=1016#1016
 
The DLI stuff that we have seen so far has markings that the materials are meant only for the American military and cannot be distributed freely or resold. At the least, it's unclear whether a bunch of well-meaning volunteers can propagate DLI's materials without being accused of flouting other regulations.
 
I don't think that gdfellows wants to run the risk of posting DLI materials unless he has a guarantee from DLI that it will not penalize him for doing so. Copyright infrignement is not the only problem that gdfellows must avoid when considering new material for posting.
 
The last thing that we want is for the entire website to be shut down because gdfellows got tripped up for doing something here that even has a whiff of being offside. I'm sure that private resellers of FSI courses circle this site like sharks just itching to find anything here that's even the slightest bit questionable in order squash a so far valid substitute to these resellers who charge good money for burnt CDs and photocopied manuals. 


Posted By: Lother
Date Posted: 17 January 2007 at 4:55pm
Fascinating since sites like amazon can sell this stuff freely on the net, I don't think he should have any problems. I can clearly find this stuff for sale to persons not of the american military, namely us.


Posted By: Chung
Date Posted: 17 January 2007 at 5:05pm

The sense around here is that gdfellows doesn't want to run the risk, our opinions and experiences notwithstanding. What's already here is very valuable as it is and it would be a shame if it would get shut down for whatever reason.

What Amazon does is Amazon's business. 
 
This sense of caution is also probably related to why this site doesn't function as a P2P network, even though the topic has come up many times before. Every time the topic was mentioned, gdfellows either ignored the request or tersely decided against setting up the courses here as part of a P2P network (advantages in bandwidth usage notwithstanding).
 
Anyway, it is gdfellows' decision to host the DLI stuff, and smoen who started this thread did write that he'd run it by gdfellows anyway to get his opinion.


Posted By: smoen
Date Posted: 17 January 2007 at 5:10pm
While I agree that it should be no problem posting some of the DLI materials on this site, it's not my site. I respect the fact that it is gdfellows site, and he is the one who would/could suffer any legal consequences if there were to be a problem, which is why I contacted gdfellows regarding this course. I haven't heard back in the last couple of days, but I'm pretty sure, barring something unforseen, that he will choose not to post this material.

I agree with chung that we should be grateful for what is here, and not run the risk of losing it all.

smoen


Posted By: gdfellows
Date Posted: 17 January 2007 at 5:12pm
For the record, I have no interest in a P2P network or sharing scheme of any kind.  We have enough FSI material available to keep us busy for a long time.  I will NOT take any risks here posting material that has a questionable copyright status.
 
End of discussion, and end of this topic.



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