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CantoKid
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Quote CantoKid Replybullet Topic: FSI Japanese?
    Posted: 01 August 2006 at 3:47am
Was there ever an FSI course for Japanese?

Edited by CantoKid - 01 August 2006 at 3:48am
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Quote DemiPuppet Replybullet Posted: 13 August 2006 at 10:35pm
As far as I can tell, there never was a Japanese Basic Course.  It looks like the FSI just used Eleanor Harz Jorden's  "Beginning Japanese" book. I'm not sure, but the FSI may have produced the audio tapes.

I was browsing through my university library and noticed that the FSI did produce a "Japanese FAST" book. But like all the FSI FAST books, it did not look very comprehensive.
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Quote RavinDave Replybullet Posted: 08 January 2007 at 9:17am
What do you make of of these tapes being sold on eBay?


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Quote Chung Replybullet Posted: 08 January 2007 at 9:41am
Are these originals directly from FSI? Or are they from Multilingua Inc.?
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Quote onebir Replybullet Posted: 08 January 2007 at 12:54pm
Originally posted by DemiPuppet

As far as I can tell, there never was a Japanese Basic Course.  It looks like the FSI just used Eleanor Harz Jorden's  "Beginning Japanese" book. I'm not sure, but the FSI may have produced the audio tapes.


I'm confused about this too.  It thought that NTIS only sold US government produced materials.  But here's a chunk of its mission statement:

"NTIS' Responsibilities
  • Facilitate public access to Federal information
  • ...
  • Maintain a permanent repository of unclassified scientific, technical, engineering, and business information"
http://www.ntis.gov/about/overview.asp?loc=6-1-0

The second bullet seems to mandate them to sell copyright materials too.

On the other hand there are 'true' copyright materials based on FSI stuff (usually modified by the course developers at a later date) and Jorden did work for the FSI 'for many years', according to her Wikipedia entry:
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanor_Jorden)


So maybe the 'Beginning Japanese' sold by NTIS (link below) is a government-funded, public domain version of the Eleanor Hartz Jordan, which she later modified into the Yale version...

(http://www.ntis.gov/search/results.asp?loc=3-0-0&strSearch=ntisavlanguagejapanese&formShow=no)

Perhaps the NTIS could answer the question?

EDIT: I think the existence of a Barron's Mastering Japanese, crediting the FSI + the same authors (Eleanor Harz Jorden, and Hamako Ito Chaplin) supports the theory that the NTIS beginning Japanese is public domain...

http://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Japanese-Foreign-Language-Institute/dp/0812078659/sr=1-11/qid=1168283230/ref=sr_1_11/102-4853311-8496108?ie=UTF8&s=books



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Quote CantoKid Replybullet Posted: 01 February 2007 at 1:56am
Very interesting, it looks like we may have to try and get a hold of this course as well! Cool!
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Quote CharlieBrown Replybullet Posted: 05 February 2007 at 3:27am
I would love to have a Japanese section!
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Quote emptysilo Replybullet Posted: 06 February 2007 at 6:16pm
Actually, the book that comes with the Barron's course is the exact same book (1963 copyright) that is published by Yale University Press (I bought both without knowing it at the time). If you order the Beginning Japanese tapes, the same several (8 tapes come with part 1) of the first ones are the same. So, I don't think it is in the public domain. But I don't know.

This is the first of three parts by the way. Part 1 then Part 2 then Reading Japanese. You can order all the tapes (217$ for Beginning-15+16 tapes, 117$ for Reading) through Cornell now, instead of whatever company is mentioned in the book. I am guessing there are 15 tapes for Part 1 covers the same for Barron's so it is cheaper to get the tapes from Barron's since Cornell's price for just the tapes for Part 1 is 105$ (Part 2 = 112$). I don't know if there is a cheaper price to get it from then perhaps a friend.

Hopes this helps, ES.
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Quote beanie Replybullet Posted: 10 May 2007 at 1:20am
I believe "Reading Japanese" from 1976 by Eleanor Harz Jorden has a notice in it that released it to the public domain in 1991.
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Quote overrated Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 10:09am
Can anyone do anything about this?
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